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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2018 16:17:38 GMT -5
As I recall he was raised by grandmother he though was his mother and his mother was his sister. Can't trust my memory anymore though. Let me look it up.
Yup. Memory serves.
www.snopes.com/movies/actors/nicholson.asp
P.S. George W. Bush was not raised by his grandmother.
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Post by pat on Jan 17, 2018 19:05:35 GMT -5
As I recall he was raised by grandmother he though was his mother and his mother was his sister. Can't trust my memory anymore though. Let me look it up.
Yup. Memory serves.
www.snopes.com/movies/actors/nicholson.asp
P.S. George W. Bush was not raised by his grandmother. In the past, a lot of the children of unmarried women were brought up thinking that their grandmother was their mother and I doubt that many of them turned out to be serial killers. I think that psychologists latch onto things like that, just like they latch onto bed wetting, as an explanation when there are millions of other men who didn't know the identity of their real mother or wet the bed who turned out normal.
The resemblance between George W. Bush and Ted Bundy is uncanny. I live in Florida, not far from where Bundy killed one of his victims, and old videos of him are constantly on TV and I've seen GWB in person. Everything about them is similar, the way they walk, the way they talk. When two people are that much alike, it seems to me that it would have to be more than a coincidence.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 20:13:30 GMT -5
Aileen Wuornos was raised by her grandmother.
There could be a million people raised by their grandmother and ten serial killers raised by their grandmother. What people don't seem to understand is that you work out the percentages of people raised by their grandmother in society and then compare the rates with the percentages of serial killers who are raised by their grandmother compared to the total number of SKs.
If it's twice the rate, it's an Indicator. I arbitrarily put it at twice the rate although anything significantly higher that 1:1 could be an Indicator. That's how it works. The lowest rated "Triad" Indicator that can be rated is bed wetting at estimated 3 times the average based on one study of 20 and my research on bed wetting in childhood. That's significant.
And I'm not blaming grandma anymore than I'm blaming going number 1 at the wrong time.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2018 1:01:22 GMT -5
Since posters on the profiling thread are thinking rates of double or triple are significant, I'm going to post the rates for the MacDonald Homicidal Triad which are more than double the going rates so these Indicators and the Triad are not debunked according to the math. How many studies to the skeptics need. I don't really care.
Serial killers (McKenzie Study, 20 serial killers)
Bed wetting 50% vs 16% = 3 x higher than average, Fire setting 6% vs 1% = 6 x higher Animal Abuse 10% vs 25% + 2.5 x higher
Combination 3 x 6 x 2.5 = 45 x higher than the national average
Maybe now they'll accept the new Homicidal Triad with Aviation coming in at 500X the norm by itself. The others can't really be tabulated.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2018 18:01:13 GMT -5
What ties it all together? Obviously it's child abuse but abuse is relative so it might be saying something about how the serial killers are strung. The New Homicide Triad has nothing to do with abuse so it has to do with how highly they're strung.
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Post by jason on Jan 30, 2018 10:36:00 GMT -5
I just noticed there's a "Deleted Member" notation below beyonder's name. Did y'all ban him, or did he get his knickers in a twist about something? Because no one has ever been banned from this group, I assume it's the latter.
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Post by Graveyardbride on Jan 30, 2018 12:53:23 GMT -5
I just noticed there's a "Deleted Member" notation below beyonder's name. Did y'all ban him, or did he get his knickers in a twist about something? Because no one has ever been banned from this group, I assume it's the latter. I had no interaction with him and seriously doubt Joanna banned him. I've never banned anyone.
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Post by Joanna on Jan 30, 2018 23:06:02 GMT -5
I just noticed there's a "Deleted Member" notation below beyonder's name. Did y'all ban him, or did he get his knickers in a twist about something? Because no one has ever been banned from this group, I assume it's the latter. He left the group for some reason. I sent him an email and asked why, but he never replied. When he mentioned "racism" in the thread Criminal Profiling: Scientific Tool or Psychobabble, I was afraid he was going to ruffle some feathers. What he said was, "Anything more than double criminal propensity and you're back to no Racial Indicator in favor of Blacks because you can't prove criminal propensity in America isn't partly based on racism and exclusion from any possibility of mainstream success through 'legal' means."
Like Graveyardbride, I've never banned anyone. We have very lax rules and even when someone breaks a rule -- Jason's political comments, for example -- I overlook it because it's never gotten out of hand.
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Post by kitty on Jan 31, 2018 13:19:51 GMT -5
He left the group for some reason. I sent him an email and asked why, but he never replied. When he mentioned "racism" in the thread Criminal Profiling: Scientific Tool or Psychobabble, I was afraid he was going to ruffle some feathers. What he said was, "Anything more than double criminal propensity and you're back to no Racial Indicator in favor of Blacks because you can't prove criminal propensity in America isn't partly based on racism and exclusion from any possibility of mainstream success through 'legal' means."
Like Lee, I've never banned anyone. We have very lax rules and even when someone breaks a rule -- Jason's political comments, for example -- I overlook it because it's never gotten out of hand.
I don't care what his reason was. It's very rude to join a group and start posting and asking people questions and then just up and leave without any explanation.
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Post by jason on Jan 31, 2018 14:21:04 GMT -5
He left the group for some reason. I sent him an email and asked why, but he never replied. When he mentioned "racism" in the thread Criminal Profiling: Scientific Tool or Psychobabble, I was afraid he was going to ruffle some feathers. What he said was, "Anything more than double criminal propensity and you're back to no Racial Indicator in favor of Blacks because you can't prove criminal propensity in America isn't partly based on racism and exclusion from any possibility of mainstream success through 'legal' means."
Like Lee, I've never banned anyone. We have very lax rules and even when someone breaks a rule -- Jason's political comments, for example -- I overlook it because it's never gotten out of hand.
In other words, he voted for Hillary.
Thanks for "overlooking" my political comments.
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Post by Graveyardbride on Feb 1, 2018 2:43:14 GMT -5
In other words, he voted for Hillary. Thanks for "overlooking" my political comments. He didn't live in the United States.
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Post by jason on Feb 3, 2018 2:03:28 GMT -5
I had no interaction with him and seriously doubt Joanna banned him. I've never banned anyone. You never interact with anyone.
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Post by jason on Feb 3, 2018 2:04:14 GMT -5
He didn't live in the United States.
Ahh, he voted for Justin. Same difference.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2018 18:00:41 GMT -5
In other words, he voted for Hillary. Thanks for "overlooking" my political comments. He didn't live in the United States.
en.metapedia.org/wiki/La_Griffe_du_LionThink he's La Griffe? Similar stats style I note. And is La Griffe Gordon? Attachments:
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Post by Sam on Feb 3, 2018 19:40:37 GMT -5
What ties it all together? Obviously it's child abuse but abuse is relative so it might be saying something about how the serial killers are strung. The New Homicide Triad has nothing to do with abuse so it has to do with how highly they're strung.
There's an old saying, "I cried because I had no shoes until I met a man who had no feet."
You may be right and child abuse is what links serial killers. But there's a lot more to it because no matter how bad a serial killer was abused, you can always find somebody who was abused worse and turned out normal. So I think that you're right when you say that it's the way they're strung, so then you have to ask the question - Why does one boy who was abused become a serial killer, while another boy who was abused worse grows up to be normal? That's the question that needs to be answered.
I'm in the mountains of Appalachia and I'm in law enforcement and I've seen folks do all kinds of things. Sometimes you'll have a family where everybody in the family is a criminal and you know that it's part genetic and part learned behavior. But then you have other folks who are good, law abiding families, but one member of the family will go wrong for no known reason and folks will say that he was just a bad seed. I don't know what makes a bad seed, but kids are born with whatever it is. If anybody ever figures it out, it might tell us what turns some men into serial killers.
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