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Post by Isbeau on Apr 25, 2018 15:29:24 GMT -5
I support an old theory on strange creatures that appear out of nowhere. They are signs or omen. They're a sign or a message. Sometimes they're a omen or a portent, usually something bad or negative. Just like a ghost from the civil war might be lingering negative energy from the past to remind us of what happened and what may happen again.
It doesn't matter if the "creature" is natural, supernatural, alien or earthly. It could just be a freak of nature, not just a cryptid or a visitor. The question is what does it mean? The answer could be in the form (half human, winged) or the color (red Yetis) , or something else in the appearance. I like to try to guess what they mean.
I think all these things, good or evil, appear for a reason and their appearance has to be controlled by the divine ultimately. So there has to be a reason it happened.
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Post by Isbeau on Apr 25, 2018 17:29:37 GMT -5
Sometimes society creates a story to go along with the sighting to fall in with society's standards but I like to get to the real heart of it. I'm thinking about the Jersey Devil and the Leeds story, as an example.
There's a lot of leeway with this theory so it can't be totally debunked.
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Post by steve on Apr 25, 2018 18:31:16 GMT -5
Sometimes society creates a story to go along with the sighting to fall in with society's standards but I like to get to the real heart of it. I'm thinking about the Jersey Devil and the Leeds story, as an example. There's a lot of leeway with this theory so it can't be totally debunked.
I'm sure no one really believes the Leeds story, but there have been too many credible witnesses to the Jersey Devil to say that there isn't something "out there". Have you read "200 Years of Jersey Devil Sightings"? whatliesbeyond.boards.net/thread/4901/200-years-jersey-devil-encounters
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Post by jane on May 1, 2018 23:03:18 GMT -5
I support an old theory on strange creatures that appear out of nowhere. They are signs or omen. They're a sign or a message. Sometimes they're a omen or a portent, usually something bad or negative. Just like a ghost from the civil war might be lingering negative energy from the past to remind us of what happened and what may happen again. It doesn't matter if the "creature" is natural, supernatural, alien or earthly. It could just be a freak of nature, not just a cryptid or a visitor. The question is what does it mean? The answer could be in the form (half human, winged) or the color (red Yetis) , or something else in the appearance. I like to try to guess what they mean. I think all these things, good or evil, appear for a reason and their appearance has to be controlled by the divine ultimately. So there has to be a reason it happened. Mothman-type creatures may be a sign or omen, but I wouldn't think the same would be true of creatures like Bigfoot and lake monsters. My understanding of "cryptid" is that it's an actual flesh and blood animal, not something supernatural.
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Post by Isbeau on May 2, 2018 14:20:29 GMT -5
A natural creature can be a sign, as long as it's strange. Birds were considered omen. Good when they appear on the right. Bad on the left. I guess it has to be an unusual bird or a rare bird and an unusual sighting.
Not many redish bigfoots around here. Plenty next to China.
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Post by Joanna on May 2, 2018 15:59:55 GMT -5
A natural creature can be a sign, as long as it's strange. Birds were considered omen. Good when they appear on the right. Bad on the left. I guess it has to be an unusual bird or a rare bird and an unusual sighting. Not many redish bigfoots around here. Plenty next to China. In Maine, there are Indian legends of reddish hairy men and there have been sightings in Maine of what people described as a bigfoot with "reddish" fur.
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Post by Isbeau on May 2, 2018 20:32:59 GMT -5
Red can mean a lot of things. What do you think they mean?
"Red symbolizes excitement, energy, passion, action, love, and danger in Western cultures. It's also associated with communism and revolution in countries like Russia. In Asian cultures red is a very important color — it symbolizes good luck, joy, prosperity, celebration, happiness, and a long life."
Pretty much the same for Native Americans. Blood, war, happiness, birth.
It could also mean a rise of socialism. Rise of the First Nations. Who knows? I don't hear anything about White Buffalo.
"White is associated with light, goodness, innocence, purity, and virginity. It is considered to be the color of perfection. White means safety, purity, and cleanliness. As opposed to black, white usually has a positive connotation. White can represent a successful beginning."
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Post by Sam on May 2, 2018 20:40:16 GMT -5
A natural creature can be a sign, as long as it's strange. Birds were considered omen. Good when they appear on the right. Bad on the left. I guess it has to be an unusual bird or a rare bird and an unusual sighting. Not many redish bigfoots around here. Plenty next to China.
There are a lot of death superstitions about birds. In Appalachia, where I live, folks say if a bird beats its wings at a window, like its trying to get in, it means that someone in the house is going to die. There are also superstitions about hoot owls and crows. Lee and Joanna posted some very good articles about bird superstitions, I thought in this group, but since I couldn't find them, it must have been in one of the old groups. But I've never heard anything about birds being a good or bad omen depending on which side they appear on.
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Post by Sam on May 2, 2018 20:59:31 GMT -5
Red can mean a lot of things. What do you thing they mean? "Red symbolizes excitement, energy, passion, action, love, and danger in Western cultures. It's also associated with communism and revolution in countries like Russia. In Asian cultures red is a very important color — it symbolizes good luck, joy, prosperity, celebration, happiness, and a long life." Pretty much the same for Native Americans. Blood, war, happiness, birth. It could also mean a rise of socialism. Rise of the First Nations. Who knows? I don't hear anything about White Buffalo. "White is associated with light, goodness, innocence, purity, and virginity. It is considered to be the color of perfection. White means safety, purity, and cleanliness. As opposed to black, white usually has a positive connotation. White can represent a successful beginning."
I wouldn't consider red and reddish to be the same thing. A bigfoot with reddish fur would be the color of a bay horse, not the bright red that symbolizes excitement, energy, or whatever.
Indians believed that a white buffalo was a good omen and it was sacred to them. Just like the white stag is sacred and a good omen in England and Scotland. There are a lot of pubs named The White Hart and King Richard II used the white hart as a symbol.
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Post by Isbeau on May 3, 2018 22:32:41 GMT -5
Hi Sam. The "Jaws" white shark attack in New Jersey was in 1916. They're only white on the belly. Could be a bad sign regarding war with Germany perhaps? If the bigfoot was bright red like a tomato, that would be a real sign of something. I think there has to be some subtlety. "Redmen" aren't red either but there just has to be a connotation. Birds on the right or left was from the Roman Empire times. Left might be good now for Liberals!
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Post by madeline on May 4, 2018 16:25:50 GMT -5
Hi Sam. The "Jaws" white shark attack in New Jersey was in 1916. They're only white on the belly. Could be a bad sign regarding war with Germany perhaps? If the bigfoot was bright red like a tomato, that would be a real sign of something. I think there has to be some subtlety. "Redmen" aren't red either but there just has to be a connotation. Birds on the right or left was from the Roman Empire times. Left might be good now for Liberals! How could the great white shark attacks have been a sign of war with Germany?
White animals with red-tipped ears, such as cattle, were sacred to the Druids. Animals with red-tipped ears also are connected to the fairy realm.
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Post by Isbeau on May 6, 2018 17:59:48 GMT -5
Well, madeline, it could be a sign of war with Germany in WW1 or even WW2 since the attacks were in New Jersey and the only area in Britain the Germans took over was the Island of Jersey. I do believe White symbolizes Caucasians in certain signs. How else would you symbolize them? Sharks are also similar to submarines or U-boats.
I also think these things are supposed to happen in Twilight Zone areas. New Jersey has those. Aren't they supposed to be like a Looking Glass? By themselves, the signs are pretty vague, ambiguous, and unreliable when you don't know the key, don't know if the sign is prophesy or warning or coincidence but look good in hindsight.
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Post by steve on May 7, 2018 10:35:57 GMT -5
Well, madeline, it could be a sign of war with Germany in WW1 or even WW2 since the attacks were in New Jersey and the only area in Britain the Germans took over was the Island of Jersey. I do believe White symbolizes Caucasians in certain signs. How else would you symbolize them? Sharks are also similar to submarines or U-boats. I also think these things are supposed to happen in Twilight Zone areas. New Jersey has those. Aren't they supposed to be like a Looking Glass? By themselves, the signs are pretty vague, ambiguous, and unreliable when you don't know the key, don't know if the sign is prophesy or warning or coincidence but look good in hindsight.
White sharks as omen of a war with Germany because Germany is Caucasian is pretty far out. We're also Caucasian. I Googled the shark attacks from 1916 and until then, people didn't think that sharks could kill a human. Some of the people were killed in a creek, not in the ocean. What probably happened was that for some reason, there were a lot of sharks in the area at that time. Once people realized that sharks could kill and eat them, they stayed out of the water when they saw sharks swimming around.
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Post by Isbeau on May 7, 2018 18:31:50 GMT -5
What animal, cryptid or sign would you use to represent Germans? Beware I'm a quarter. Dadadaddumdumdum.
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Post by Isbeau on May 7, 2018 18:35:05 GMT -5
A shark could be Nazis or Capitalists. Peter Benchley used sharks both ways, in books White Shark and Jaws, both made into movies.
I might stick to predicting. You can predict the event based on the signs or predict the signs based on the event if you know it. Of course, things can always change and that's a disclaimer. Butterfly effect in effect.
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