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Post by Kate on Feb 2, 2018 2:36:34 GMT -5
I don't mind if people speculate. It keeps the memory alive. I just thought on a forum about the esoteric would look into that aspect. I do believe in the Dorothy in the forest concept with the trees grabbing you, so to speak. Water sucking you in. I'm no Dorothy but I could feel it. Not that strong for me though. Some people though shouldn't get drunk near water. Especially alone. I think that Natalie Wood believed what the fortuneteller said about dark water and when something sticks with you like that, you should heed it. In the article that Lee wrote, she tells how Natalie Wood was so terrified of the water in a movie that she made with Bette Davis that they had to get a stand-in for that part. I also think that Robert Wagner was lying when he said that they both loved the ocean and that buying the boat was his idea, not hers. There's no way that she would have got in a rubber lifeboat in the middle of the night, no matter how drunk she was, and if it had been loose, she would have told one of the men. I don't know what happened, but I don't believe that she went into the water by choice.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 21:53:46 GMT -5
Well, I can't say for sure if someone cast her adrift or dropped her in the drink or not but I can tell you I hated water as much as anyone and couldn't swim and once felt like taking a dip all alone in a remote lake off an almost sheer drop off. If I was drunk or otherwise intoxicated or maybe a "Dorothy", in I'd go.
Two weeks before grad, a couple of the guys went to a lake up north and found a canoe and went out on the lake (must have been June). Out to the middle probably and canoe sank and both died. The type of guys that would disappear on the trail if you put them at the back of the line.
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Post by jason on Feb 3, 2018 2:22:04 GMT -5
I don't mind if people speculate. It keeps the memory alive. I just thought on a forum about the esoteric would look into that aspect. I do believe in the Dorothy in the forest concept with the trees grabbing you, so to speak. Water sucking you in. I'm no Dorothy but I could feel it. Not that strong for me though. Some people though shouldn't get drunk near water. Especially alone. Strange things happen and I don't think anyone in this group doubts the supernatural, or whatever you want to call it, but it's only after I've exhausted all logical explanations that I consider the improbable.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2018 15:44:40 GMT -5
Same here. If there are people there, drunk ones at that, and there's an argument....That's usually the more likely explanation.
I also believe in subconscious death wish or openness under certain stressful circumstances leaving themselves vulnerable to "accidents".
I wouldn't mind knowing the details of where the dinghy was found and where her body was found. The videos might shed light on that.
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Post by kitty on Feb 4, 2018 21:06:27 GMT -5
I watched 48 Hours last night and there wasn't really any new information, except that the captain and Wagner had changed their stories. But I'd really like to know what Christopher Walken told the detective.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2018 17:48:08 GMT -5
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Post by jason on Feb 7, 2018 11:15:33 GMT -5
The dinghy was found near her body. I don't know if that means she was in it at one time, or if she fell directly into the water from the boat. There's been speculation that Wagner and she were fighting because she was flirting with Walken and he forced her into the dinghy, untied it and pushed her out into the water to teach her a lesson, with the intention of rescuing her. No matter how mad he was at her, I don't believe that he would have thrown her directly into the water because he was something of an experienced sailor and would know that it doesn't take long to develop hyperthermia in cold water.
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Post by madeline on Feb 7, 2018 16:58:34 GMT -5
I think that the answer lies with Christopher Walken. There has to be some reason that he won't talk about what happened and gave a statement to the detective only on condition that it not be repeated on 48 Hours. That indicates that he knows something.
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