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Post by Graveyardbride on Oct 9, 2013 17:57:35 GMT -5
The Teratorn - extinct? Thunderbird Sighting in IowaMy husband was driving home early this morning (October 2, 2013) and pulled off of Highway 30 on the last exit headed west for Ames, Iowa. He said he got to the top of the exit ramp, turned right and came up to another stop sign on Lincoln Highway. He stopped the car there instead of proceeding because he said he saw a giant black bird take off from the ground in a cornfield across the road. He said the wingspan was around 40 feet wide and the body enormous (bigger than small planes). He said he’d never seen anything like it. He said it just flew off up into the clouds and disappeared. He said it wasn’t a very graceful flier either. This happened at approximately 6:50 a.m. He didn’t want anyone to know, but upon further research, it seems that these sightings have happened in Iowa before and all over the country throughout history. I thought I would report his sighting to you (exactly what he told me) to let others know and to be on the lookout in the Ames area for this bird again. – KatieThe Legend of the Thunderbird. The thunderbird is a legendary creature in certain North American indigenous peoples’ history and culture. It is considered a supernatural bird of power and strength. It is especially important, and frequently depicted, in the art, songs and oral histories of many Pacific Northwest Coast cultures, and is found in various forms among the peoples of the American Southwest, Great Lakes and Great Plains. Thunderbirds were components of the Southeastern Ceremonial Complex of American prehistory
The thunderbird’s name comes from the common belief that the beating of its enormous wings causes thunder and stirs the wind. The Lakota name for the thunderbird is Waki´ya, from wakha, meaning “sacred,” and kiya, meaning “winged.” The Kwakwaka’wakw have many names for the thunderbird, and the Nuu-chah-nulth (Nootka) called it Kw-Uhnx-Wa. The Ojibwa word for a thunderbird that is closely associated with thunder is animikii, while large thunderous birds are known as binesi.
Source: The Crypto Crew, October 6, 2013.
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Post by Joanna on Oct 9, 2013 23:23:33 GMT -5
Long Lost Thunderbird Photo Found? It has long been rumored that there is a “long lost” picture of a thunderbird taken some years back. Is this it? It was sent to me by reader Lisanne W. and she says:
“Big fan of your site. I check the headlines daily and sometimes post my profound comments under the name El Supercabras. Anyhoo, quite some time ago I stumbled on the attached photo on a website completely unrelated to anything cryptozoological or unexplained. I think it was just someone’s personal blog. I’ve heard of the photo but had never seen it. I make no claims to the authenticity of this. I don’t even remember where it came from, but I am dying for others to see it and hear what they think.”
Thanks, Lisanne. Some of the other alleged thunderbird and pterosaur pictures can be seen in the article, “Did Pterosaurs Survive Extinction?” Source: Stephen Wagner, ParanormalPhenomena, October 9, 2013.
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Post by Sam on Oct 12, 2013 0:46:23 GMT -5
Two Thunderbird stories in the same week! It's strange how there will be stories about the same kinds of phenomena from different places at almost the same time.
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Post by Graveyardbride on Aug 3, 2014 16:24:39 GMT -5
Flying BehemothsOn Monday, July 25, 1977, Ruth Lowe of Lawndale, Illinois, was cleaning the family camper in the front yard when she heard her 10–year-old son, Marlon, screaming from behind the house. She dropped what she was doing, dashed to the backyard and saw a gigantic black bird with a wingspan exceeding 8 feet that had grasped her 56-pound son by the shoulders and was attempting to fly off with him. According to Mrs. Lowe, the bird came very close to succeeding. It had managed to lift the violently struggling boy off the ground and was slowly flapping its way across the yard. However, either the child was too heavy or the bird was startled by the frantic cries of mother and son and dropped its prey. The bird soared skyward and, joined by an equally-large companion, flew away.
Alerted by the bloodcurdling screams from the backyard, Jake Lowe and next-door neighbors James and Betty Daniels came running, arriving in time to witness the bizarre incident. Later, Daniels told a UPI reporter: “If I had just had a can or beer earlier, then I could have said I imagined it. But I didn’t have any beer that day.” Once the predators were out of sight, the Lowes measured the distance and determined the bird had carried Marlon a distance of approximately 35 feet. The witnesses described the flying behemoth as follows:
“It had a white ring around it’s half foot long neck. The rest of the body was very black. The bird’s bill was six inches in length and hooked at the end. The claws on the feet were arranged with three front, one in the back. Each wing, less the body, was four feet at the very least. The entire length of the bird’s body, from beak to tail feather, was approximately four and one-half feet.”
Officials were quick to discredit the family’s version of events. According to experts – are there any “big bird” experts? – gigantic, child-snatching black birds aren’t exactly a common sight in the skies over Illinois, or anywhere else in the western hemisphere, for that matter. Perhaps, it was suggested, the birds were turkey vultures or king vultures. However, neither of these species, which weigh around 50 pounds, are big and powerful enough to grab a struggling boy. Also, vultures prefer to dine on carrion – rancid, dead flesh – and are unlikely to attack a living creature. The consensus, at least among many, was that the Lowes perhaps embellished the details of the encounter. And yet, to this day, Marlon Lowe sticks to his family’s version of events.
It’s easy to scoff at and dismiss a single encounter, but the Lowes and their neighbors weren’t the only ones who saw the gigantic birds. On the evening of July 28 – three days later – a woman driving not far from Lawndale reported being “buzzed” by a giant bird. And a couple hours later, a group of model airplane afficionados were approached by a bird with an estimated 10-foot wingspan. The following day, a mail carrier, James Majors, reported seeing two large birds flying about above a pig farm. Suddenly, one of them dropped from the sky, attacked what he estimated to be a 50-pound pig and hauled the squealing swine into the air. Shortly thereafter, it landed with its prize at which time it was joined by its companion and the two dined on the catch of the day.
Suburban Illinois isn’t the only place to report encounters with giant airborne predators. In 1967, a monster bird with a reported 15- to 20-foot wingspan flew over Middletown Ohio. In the 1970s, there was a spate of Texas sightings, including a January 1976 encounter in which two San Benito police officers, Arturo Padillo and Homero Galvan, reportedly saw an enormous bird gliding over a canal. And Pennsylvania seems to be a hotbed for freakish flyers, with eyewitness accounts dating to the 19th century.
Perhaps these were examples of a winged beast American Indians dubbed the Thunderbird – a gigantic, supposedly mythical creature that was said to cause thunder and lighting.
Though sightings of gigantic birds continue, one has never been reported by any of the country’s tens of thousands of ornithologists – at least not by one who reported the incident. Some consider it significant that people with the ability to differentiate between two closely-related species of finch at great distances have never spotted an avian predator the size of a small airplane. Also, doubters ask: what exactly do such giant birds eat? Perhaps the cattle mutilations people should get together with the Thunderbird enthusiasts and compare notes.
The Lowe family and other witnesses who reported big bird sightings in the 1970s were ridiculed which would have deterred others who may have seen the flying giants. As recently as June 2012, a cryptzoologist received an email from an unidentified source, who claimed to have seen the pair of birds that attempted to snatch Marlon Lowe, the day before the attack:
“I saw the two thunderbirds in Springfield IL the day before Marlon Lowe was attacked, in Lawndale, Il. This is no joke! I told my father and family and they all laughed. But in the next day or two when it hit the local news they changed their tune!
“Several friends of mine and I went on a hike following Spring Creek from Washington Park due Southwest about as far as we could until we reached a muskrat dam. We decided to hike back from there. Along the way back, the big birds flew due north directly over our heads as we stumbled along the small trail alongside the creek! And when I say directly over our heads; that means ten feet in the air above us! I have never diclosed [sic] this story publicly, but I feel it should be known after seeing the countless shows on the TV and the ridicule endured by Marlon and his family.”
In Unsolved Mysteries of the Old West, author W. C. Jameson tells the curious tale of the Thunderbird Cave in Utah. In 1738, a band of treasure-seeking Spaniards, who were overloaded with silver ingots, were attacked and killed by Indians angry over the continual trespassing on their hunting lands. Two survivors however, while in hiding, watched as the Indians took the burros of the dead Spaniards into a cave that had a petroglyph of a large strange bird over its entrance. The Indians killed and hacked-up the bodies of the burros, even copping off their hooves. In the 1980s an unnamed treasure hunter went into the cave looking for the silver ingots in the famed Thunderbird Cave. After an extended search, he finally found a cave with a petroglyph of a large unusual looking bird with a long, reptile-like tail, over its entrance. While digging, he unearthed burro hooves and the large stem of a feather measuring 18 inches in length. Ornithologists determined it to be a wing feather, but from what sort of bird, no one can say. Were the burros a sacrifice to the Thunderbirds? Sources: Suburban Legends: True Tales of Murder, Mayhem and Minivans by Sam Stall; Phantoms & Monsters; and Mysterious World.
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Post by Sam on Aug 4, 2014 3:56:39 GMT -5
I've read a lot about cryptid creatures, but I'd never heard of the Lowe case. Thanks for posting this.
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Post by Joanna on May 9, 2015 1:23:57 GMT -5
Unknown Dimensions: Possible Thunderbird SightingA recent addition to the growing family of Unknown Dimensions readers, Angela, recently sent me an email concerning a personal encounter she had less than two years ago in Stone County, Missouri.
“I was looking through some of your earlier columns and read about the large birds people had reported seeing here in the Ozarks. I immediately remembered my own sighting of what I believe was a Thunderbird, as they are often called, back in July of 2013. I remember it was late in the morning on a Wednesday, and it was sunny and already uncomfortably hot. I was driving south on what is called the River Run Road, on my way to visit a friend in Forsyth and had just passed Silver Creek. All of a sudden, I noticed something flying toward the road no higher than a private plane coming in for a landing, but, if anything, a little bit bigger than a piper cub. I almost ran off the road, when I realized that I was looking at a huge bird, much bigger than any that we normally see in this area and, in fact, bigger than any bird that I know of in the world. There were no other cars behind me, so I immediately stopped to watch it cross over the road. There was a dark gray car coming from the opposite direction, and it slowed down for a moment, then took off and passed me going the opposite direction like the devil himself was chasing them. When it went by, I saw a man driving and a woman turned around to look out the back window, but the bird never gave any sign of noticing them at all.
“The bird just flew across the road like it had some place to be and could care less about a couple of cars, climbed a little bit higher above the ground, and curved off more toward the southwest. It just stayed on that path until it got too far away to see any more.”
Angela’s email was fascinating, but there were several questions to which I wanted answers. I immediately responded and in less than an hour, was reading her answers.
“Boy, I did leave a lot out, didn’t I? The bird I saw was very much like an eagle in its body shape and the way it flew, but far too big to be one. The color was a solid chocolate brown all over, with a yellowish beak that was kind of curved down – almost like a parrot. I am not great at estimating feet and inches, but I would say that from wingtip to wingtip it was at least 20 and maybe even 25 feet across. The body was probably 8-10 feet long and the legs were a lighter brown, held up tight against the body instead of dangling, like a crane’s would do. It definitely did not resemble any bird that I am familiar with, even if it would have been more normal in size. I did have my window rolled down but never heard any sound from it.
“As for your question concerning other witnesses, the only ones I am sure about was the couple in the other car who took off so quickly, and I have no idea who they were. I don’t remember seeing anyone outside within seeing distance, and I asked several people I know in the area over the next few days. None of them had ever seen a bird like I described or heard anyone else mention seeing one that big. One friend did tell me that several years ago she was outside after dark and heard a loud squawking sound from up above her, but when she looked up into the dark sky she could not see anything. I have had several people mention seeing UFOs in the area over the years, and I will either get more info on their stories to send you or pass along your email address so they can contact you directly.”
Angela’s Thunderbird account certainly contained some valuable information, including elements of her description that are significantly different from other reports.
There seems to be sufficient variation between the many detailed accounts to indicate the existence of more than one undiscovered species. As is the case with other cryptid creatures, their ability to remain undetected aside from visual descriptions seems impossible. But the concept of so many otherwise credible witnesses failing to recognize a known species or suddenly deciding to subject themselves to ridicule by making up such a story seems even less likely.Source: Christian County Headliner, April 9, 2015.
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Post by sithdish on Mar 22, 2018 20:55:02 GMT -5
this may sound crazy but in 2004 in Spruce, Mo on my way to lunch i spotted a tree carved into a totem pole so i thought i need to check that out on my way back. To my surprise as i slowed down to inspect it i noticed huge red eyes, a onyx colored rough looking beak that had a can opener on the end and was at least 6 feet tall. It was standing how you would imagine Dracula with the wings crossed. When our eyes met i felt as if he was saying come on over lunch, the eyes looked right through me. Three hours later after work i returned and it was gone. The wing span would have spanned at least 15 foot across. This bird is a master of disguise it looked just like on of those trees with the bark shedding off of it, but just the trunk. Here in my home town a girl saw the same thing except she thought it was featherless like a tyradactile, turns out there was a slew of sightings from 2000-2008 then they just stopped.
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Post by Sam on Mar 22, 2018 23:29:37 GMT -5
this may sound crazy but in 2004 in Spruce, Mo on my way to lunch i spotted a tree carved into a totem pole so i thought i need to check that out on my way back. To my surprise as i slowed down to inspect it i noticed huge red eyes, a onyx colored rough looking beak that had a can opener on the end and was at least 6 feet tall. It was standing how you would imagine Dracula with the wings crossed. When our eyes met i felt as if he was saying come on over lunch, the eyes looked right through me. Three hours later after work i returned and it was gone. The wing span would have spanned at least 15 foot across. This bird is a master of disguise it looked just like on of those trees with the bark shedding off of it, but just the trunk. Here in my home town a girl saw the same thing except she thought it was featherless like a tyradactile, turns out there was a slew of sightings from 2000-2008 then they just stopped.
You're lucky. I've always been interested in cryptids, but I've never been lucky enough to see one. Do you think that it was a real thunderbird, or if it was some kind of Mothman type creature. The red eyes and the feeling you had reminds me of what some of the people said who saw Mothman back in the 60's.
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Post by Joanna on Mar 23, 2018 0:05:09 GMT -5
this may sound crazy but in 2004 in Spruce, Mo on my way to lunch i spotted a tree carved into a totem pole so i thought i need to check that out on my way back. To my surprise as i slowed down to inspect it i noticed huge red eyes, a onyx colored rough looking beak that had a can opener on the end and was at least 6 feet tall. It was standing how you would imagine Dracula with the wings crossed. When our eyes met i felt as if he was saying come on over lunch, the eyes looked right through me. Three hours later after work i returned and it was gone. The wing span would have spanned at least 15 foot across. This bird is a master of disguise it looked just like on of those trees with the bark shedding off of it, but just the trunk. Here in my home town a girl saw the same thing except she thought it was featherless like a tyradactile, turns out there was a slew of sightings from 2000-2008 then they just stopped. Thank you for sharing your interesting experience and welcome to our group.
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Post by JoannaB on Aug 22, 2019 1:29:47 GMT -5
Woman Reports Seeing Prehistoric Bird in ArizonaAround noon on Friday, August 9, an avid bird watcher allegedly saw an extinct bird in Maricopa County, Arizona. Although the woman provided her name and location, she requested anonymity.
The lady said she was driving on a six-lane highway on her way home from the grocery store when she what she described as “an extremely large bird flying very low. It was on the same side of the road, but going in the opposite direction of traffic, heading south.” She estimated the wingspan at more than 20 feet, adding it “took up three lanes of traffic. The bird was a brownish grey color,” she continued. “It was light colored. I am a bird lover and often go into nature with my binoculars to explore birds. I love birds and I know what cranes, eagles and hawks look like. This resembled a crane, longer neck, but the wings were massive. It was flying so low I was concerned it could fly into a car but it just kept soaring.”
She didn’t have time to grab her cell phone to take photos, explaining she couldn’t simply stop in the middle of the lane. “In retrospective though, I wish I had done a U-turn and followed it. I regret not thinking that at the time,” she said.
The Arizona resident indicated the bird definitely looked out of place and after looking it up online, she said it appeared very much like the Oligocene dinosaur Pelagonris Sandersi, a bird that lived in North America 28 million years ago. “It looked and felt like it was prehistoric,” she insisted. “When I found the illustrations of that bird, it looked almost exactly like that.”
In 2014, a team of scientists at the Bruce Museum in Greenwich, Conn., published a paper on the Pelagornis sandersi, which is believed to be the largest flying bird known to science. The wingspread of the feathered behemoth is estimated to have been 20 to 24 feet, which is more than twice the wingspan of the largest living flying bird today. In simple terms, the wingspan of this Oligocene bird was easily longer than the height of the tallest giraffe.
Eight months ago, a woman in Pennsylvania reported seeing a similar bird and in July 2015, two individuals in Nevada reported seeing a creature that reminded them of a pterosaur, a flying reptile believed to have gone extinct around 65 million years ago. Two weeks later, a minister and her daughter claimed to have seen an unidentified flying creature they described as “straight out of Jurassic Park.” Sources: The Paranormalist, August 16, 2019, and Enrico de Lazaro, Sci News, July 8, 2014.
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Post by steve on Aug 22, 2019 10:09:21 GMT -5
So this monstrous bird with a 20 foot wingspan was flying around in the daytime and only one person saw it?
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Post by jason on Aug 22, 2019 15:10:45 GMT -5
So this monstrous bird with a 20 foot wingspan was flying around in the daytime and only one person saw it?
How can people see something in the freaking sky when they're concentrating on their smartphones and iPads?
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Post by firstborn on Jul 11, 2020 17:52:35 GMT -5
I was born in 1953. I remember a story my mother, grandmother and aunts told us a long time ago.
It had to have been around 1941 maybe a few years earlier or later. They were in their early teens.
Anyway my mother and her sisters and 2 cousins walked into town which wasn't far away just over the bridge a bit to the movie house.
On the way home right before the bridge they heard what sounded like wings flapping. It got louder and louder as it was getting closer to them. They looked in the sky and saw a big black bird coming at them. They were so scared that they ran over the bridge to their house.
Just as they got in and slammed the door it sounded really loud when the bird hit the door. My grandma peeked out to see a birds wings that took up the space past the door on either side. So scared it was so dark they decided they would wait till the sun was up for grandma to walk and get the sheriff. That morning it was gone it must have just knocked itself out. My grandma wouldn't lie about this. I believe her.
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Post by steve on Jul 11, 2020 18:54:51 GMT -5
I was born in 1953. I remember a story my mother, grandmother and aunts told us a long time ago. It had to have been around 1941 maybe a few years earlier or later. They were in their early teens. Anyway my mother and her sisters and 2 cousins walked into town which wasn't far away just over the bridge a bit to the movie house. On the way home right before the bridge they heard what sounded like wings flapping. It got louder and louder as it was getting closer to them. They looked in the sky and saw a big black bird coming at them. They were so scared that they ran over the bridge to their house. Just as they got in and slammed the door it sounded really loud when the bird hit the door. My grandma peeked out to see a birds wings that took up the space past the door on either side. So scared it was so dark they decided they would wait till the sun was up for grandma to walk and get the sheriff. That morning it was gone it must have just knocked itself out. My grandma wouldn't lie about this. I believe her. My granddad said that he had an encounter with something like that in the Adirondacks in Upstate New York when he was a kid in the 40's. He and another boy were fishing at a stream and a bird bigger than any they'd ever seen before swooshed down at them. He said the thing was so big that it cast a shadow from one side of the stream to the other and the stream was about 25 to 30 feet wide. They were so scared they ran into the woods and kept running until they got to his friend's house. The boy's older brother thought they were crazy and went with them back to the stream. They found their poles where they had dropped them, but the fish they'd caught were gone. Everybody told them it was just an osprey or eagle that looked bigger than it was against the sun and it was just after the fish they'd caught, but my granddad grew up in the area and had seen ospreys and eagles all his life and he said that what they saw was much bigger than an osprey or eagle. Did your grandmother say whether the bird they saw had feathers or bat-like wings? The one my granddad saw had feathers.
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Post by Sam on Jul 11, 2020 23:07:20 GMT -5
I was born in 1953. I remember a story my mother, grandmother and aunts told us a long time ago. It had to have been around 1941 maybe a few years earlier or later. They were in their early teens. Anyway my mother and her sisters and 2 cousins walked into town which wasn't far away just over the bridge a bit to the movie house. On the way home right before the bridge they heard what sounded like wings flapping. It got louder and louder as it was getting closer to them. They looked in the sky and saw a big black bird coming at them. They were so scared that they ran over the bridge to their house. Just as they got in and slammed the door it sounded really loud when the bird hit the door. My grandma peeked out to see a birds wings that took up the space past the door on either side. So scared it was so dark they decided they would wait till the sun was up for grandma to walk and get the sheriff. That morning it was gone it must have just knocked itself out. My grandma wouldn't lie about this. I believe her. Thank you for sharing. I've always been interested in cryptids of all kinds and I think your grandmother's sighting is the first I've heard of a huge bird at night.
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