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Post by jackiecue on Apr 27, 2015 16:39:57 GMT -5
To jackiecue: What was Cook's relationship with Johnny William Barrentine?
Im not sure if he has any relationship with Johnny. My feelings would be he may have seen something and was threatened by Jimmy. Because of his mental illness, maybe Jimmy felt he wasn't a threat and that no one would take him seriously. I also speculate the girls may have pulled over on the side of the road because they may have been pulled over by a police officer, could be why the window was cracked too. Maybe he speculated they had been drinking and had them get out of the car? Just weeks before, I was going to a shooting range with a friend. This friend met Jimmy behind the building of the (what is now Grocery Outlet). Jimmy was in his police car and gave this friend a gun that he mentioned was his personal weapon and asked for this friend to not tell or show this weapon to anyone else. After the weapon was returned, he grabbed a cloth and started cleaning the fingerprints off. Regardless, he tried to lure me (a minor) onto a boat, acquired my cell phone number from Verizon using his police badge and even schemed up a way to get me to lie to my parents so that no one would know where I was at. Pretty shady for an officer of the law. This all happened just 3 weeks before the murders. Right after the murders, Jimmy disappeared. He was no longer working for the police force for a while. I don't know where he went but for a supervisor to just disappear strikes me odd. He came back years later and was working on the force again. When he seen me, it was like he seen a ghost. I could see a supervisor destroying evidence on purpose.I wonder if he was one of the men that had their DNA tested.
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Post by madeline on Apr 28, 2015 17:02:55 GMT -5
I live in west central Alabama and I remember when these girls were murdered. My cousin was going to school in Troy and she had a friend from Dothan who told her that the two girls were very naïve and if some man or boy that they thought was attractive had flirted with them and invited them to a party, or even to his house, that they would have probably gone. Was the man who you think did it young enough at that time that teenage girls would have found him attractive?
When I was growing up, adults were always warning girls and young women not to go out alone at night and saying there was safety in numbers, but these murders proved that wrong. I don't know if the man you're talking about is guilty or not, but teenagers are incredibly stupid and take all kinds of chances that most older women wouldn't take.
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Post by deepthought on Jul 21, 2015 11:43:19 GMT -5
A) is the semen DNA on JB tied to the killers? - rape largely a crime of violence. Neither victim beaten, raped or violently assaulted. -manner of death on rape is rarely gun. Typically only 4-5% of rapes involve a gun death. (Per FBI UCR data tables) -rape nearly always a single female victim. -both victims found fully clothed within few hours of ambush/murders -high pregnancy/sexual activity statistics of teen girls in fostercare would strongly imply unknown consensual encounter. No. DNA only means something if its known to be connected to the killers. When trained investigators ignore rational thought and FBI crime statistics, its actually a powerful clue. This suggests killer/rogue police officer is very active in murder investigation.
B) was JB drinking? The public was told no... But Were alcohol results suppressed by authorities? -BYOB Field party where underage drinking is very common. -rule bender fostercare teen. -planned in advance field party. -huge reason to celebrate -in an encounter with a rogue police officer, JB would be the most vulnerable in a underage-DUI event -and a valid medical circumstance exists which would tend to mask or confuse accurate post mortem serum ethanol levels... (Delay from last drink and execution, delay between gun shot and time heartbeat stopped would be sevreal hours and allow alcohol to metabolize and natural after death fermentation of blood in hot environments can often confuse alcohol autopsy results. Yes. She was drinking. I've received very credible information that alcohol blood levels on JB were noticeably above post mortem fermentation trace levels. Ozark PD intentionally suppressed this information.
C) Why did authorities supprress alcohol results on JB's autopsy? Could there be "something funny" with Ozark-Dale county DUI statistics? Yes. If these murders were the results of a failed dui-coercion then you would likley find two things in an effective police cover-up... Alcohol results suppressed and Ozark Dale county DUI statistics alarmingly high with a very suspicious drop in 2000, the year after murders. I never found Ozark DUI stats on internet, but I did find Dale county DUI stats. They ARE exactly (as I expected)...alarmingly high vs state average. More than double state average of 40/year per 10,000 people and a sharp 30% drop in 2000. One rogue officer could not impact DUI stats for an entire county, but a small group could. Dale county DUI stats are near or above 100/year per 10,000 people for several years before and including year 1999. None of eight neighboring SE Alabamq counties are even close to Dale county DUI stats. Ozark per capita crime rate also highest in dothan surrounding area. Yes, "something is funny" but it's about Ozark PD...
D) A simple answer to a confusing mystery, who killed JB and Tracie? The simplest and most obvious answer is Johnny Barrentine AND an Ozark police officer. Nothing explaibs all existing information other than this conclusion.
E)Clues to the identity of rogue Ozark police officer: -still employed at OPD and working near center of investigation. -very likely the Sargent in 1999 who "found the Mazda"... -low profile, avoids Media. -bothered by 7/31 memorials and often takes vacation at that time. -some past history of questionable behavior.. -since victims got very muddy, he likely got very muddy and changed his uniform during the night. His wife became aware of his predicament. -After 15-16 years.. indications of rogue officer-Barrentine conspiracy and officers wife involvment would emerge somehow... -low profile behavior will show in spivey replacement. He was NOT among list of candidates. -senseless murders strongly resemble a robbery, Barrentine is a convicted thief,and it was JB's birthday. Rogue officer very likely had a desperate need for something JB received as a birthday gift.
Conclusion: all above clues appear to be true with regard to Frankey Peterman. The current lead investigator at Ozark PD. Don't hold your breath waiting for Frankey to solve the crime. Johnny Barrentine worked at family business Daniels auto in 1999. Daniel Barrentine is now assistant principal at DA middle school, he was appointed by Frankeys wife, the DA middle school principal!!?? Small world. Eh? On July 31 1999 Frankey was in Palm Beach Florida. He took just one twitter picture that week on July 31st of the palm beach courthouse building. I'm thinking he doesn't like beach sunsets. The text with pic is revealing.
And though seldom mentioned in the Media, he was also the "something is funny" Sargent that "found" JB's Mazda.
F) ambush location. -Mazda found way too close to B/L store. The reason is simple, rogue officer conducted final cover-up alone and walked back to his vehicle. Ambush location is therefore under a mile from Herring ave. -vehicle undamaged, very likely ambush location adjacent to a dothan southward route. -pond or deep stream within 300-400 yards. -almost certainly first secluded side street on southward dothan route, esp if JB stopped to urinate. -pond or stream area would appear as natural path to safety from ambush location. Conclusion: only one location meets all these requirements. Behind Holman Funeral home/off Edna drive. Partially lit Sandy access drive behind Holman Funeral home would be ideal location for women to urinate in a desperate nightime situation.
G) did JB have a secret relationship? -no known steady boyfriend -no male escort to birthday party -hard 2_get keys meant to discourage boys her age. -Patti Rutland foster mother was clearly a mentor to JB. JB would attempt to emulate many of her accomplishments. Patti Rutland is married to a doctor... Yes.. JB was dating someone secretly.
H) what was JB's secret birthday gift? -very valuable -easily noticed and shown off. -often received in a girl's birthday -subject of what JB was going to TELL friends at party. An announcement? -could marry at 18 -Perhaps a clue to huge Herring ave mystery? Conclusion: JB got engaged..
I) JB drivers license on Mazda dash. -any random killer who took hard2keys would not leave D/L. -D/L not normal place on dash for JB or police officer. -massive blunder or mistake if D/L left by Rogue officer or accomplice. -Huge Mistakes under stress often results of attempt to fix smaller mistake, i.e. "comedy of errors" scenario. -D/L on dash likley resulted from failed attempt to return JB's license to crime scene/JB's purse. -window position: ignore or consider... Consider! -police officers often place a drivers license in their shirt pocket during a dui encounter... -reasonable to believe officer changed muddy uniform during night... -pethaos he left JB's D/L in dirty shirt? -i think officers wife tossed JB's D/L thru open window next morning when Frankey was away at Ozark PD. Her aim and timing was very flawed.
J) could some underlying desperate motive and petsonal need explain a foolish dui-coercion - robbery that results in two murders? -murders appear to be senseless robbery execution, therefore motive behind very likely desperate or personal. -rogue Ozark Sargent therefore had desperate need for a valuable ring on 7/31 1999? -social media shows Frankey Peterman celebrated 16th wedding anniversary 8-22-2014. Therefore, 8-22-1999 was his first anniversary. -public records show in 1998 Frankey was supporting family, wife was in college/grad school, all on a sargent's income in a small southern town... -I think they got married with simple wedding bands and set 1st anniversary as goal of obtaining nice diamond ring for his wife. This is not a rare behavior for struggling young couples. But murdering two teen girls for a nice ring is a very rare and unusual behavior. -also provides very sympathic reason for his wife to assist in murder cover-up. Conclusion: A very desperate coercion motive existed on 7/31/1999.
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Post by madeline on Jul 22, 2015 11:12:04 GMT -5
I live in Alabama and although teenage drinking is a problem, there's no reason to believe that these girls were drinking as they were driving around. They may have intended to drink once they got to the party, but they never made it to the party.
Teenagers often place their driver's licenses and registration on the dash if they're driving someone else's car, in case they get stopped, so I don't think that the driver's license is significant.
I don't know where you live, but in the South and other places where just about everyone has access to guns, it isn't all that unusual for rape victims to be shot and there were two of these girls.
I still think that Barrentine had something to do with these murders, or he knows who did.
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Post by shay on Nov 4, 2015 13:02:40 GMT -5
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Post by waifndingo on Nov 4, 2015 14:48:26 GMT -5
All I can tell you is that a cop friend of mine told me that Roger Coots and T.J. Warren from Newton were the ones that drove the car from wherever they picked it up from, to where it was found, and that Roger took the keys to Ohio with him, when he left with his father to go to Ohio for "work". Roger and T.J. were the county's biggest snitches in the meth trade. They ran rough shod over the citizens of Dale Co. for months and months, years even, before they were finally busted in Houston county after a police chase in which they tried to toss their pot out the window of their speeding car and it all came blowing back INTO the car and their faces and all over them. It is almost a given that a cop or cop involved person called them in the middle of the night and told them to drive a car someplace and leave it. Roger's sister lived up Matthews street, three of four houses up. Her name WAS Michelle, but she's dead now. She died a few years back, probably from a prescription pill overdose or something--who knows. . .They were brought back to Bullock road by her the next morning. Roger and his father left for Ohio about a week after the bodies were found. My cop friend said that Roger was interviewed in Ohio and that he told the cops that the keys would never be found and that they had no reason to ever bother him again because they've got nothing on him and they would NEVER have anything on him or anyone else. Pretty sure those keys are at the bottom of one of the large bodies of water that I-65 crosses before Ohio. I will stand by what I have written here til my dying day. My screen name is the name of my two dogs that Roger and TJ and that meth head crowd POISONED because of my involvement with the cops in trying to get them busted.
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Post by waifndingo on Nov 4, 2015 15:00:00 GMT -5
To jackiecue: What was Cook's relationship with Johnny William Barrentine?
Im not sure if he has any relationship with Johnny. My feelings would be he may have seen something and was threatened by Jimmy. Because of his mental illness, maybe Jimmy felt he wasn't a threat and that no one would take him seriously. I also speculate the girls may have pulled over on the side of the road because they may have been pulled over by a police officer, could be why the window was cracked too. Maybe he speculated they had been drinking and had them get out of the car? Just weeks before, I was going to a shooting range with a friend. This friend met Jimmy behind the building of the (what is now Grocery Outlet). Jimmy was in his police car and gave this friend a gun that he mentioned was his personal weapon and asked for this friend to not tell or show this weapon to anyone else. After the weapon was returned, he grabbed a cloth and started cleaning the fingerprints off. Regardless, he tried to lure me (a minor) onto a boat, acquired my cell phone number from Verizon using his police badge and even schemed up a way to get me to lie to my parents so that no one would know where I was at. Pretty shady for an officer of the law. This all happened just 3 weeks before the murders. Right after the murders, Jimmy disappeared. He was no longer working for the police force for a while. I don't know where he went but for a supervisor to just disappear strikes me odd. He came back years later and was working on the force again. When he seen me, it was like he seen a ghost. I could see a supervisor destroying evidence on purpose.I wonder if he was one of the men that had their DNA tested. Jimmy Cook has been dead for several years now. I knew him for years and he never treated me shabbily. I worked with his daughter in Newton. He was a friend of my brother, David. I do not see Jimmy Cook being even capable of murdering two young women in cold blood. I also knew the Barrentine's, and while they were considered "White trash" by most, Johnny was the least threatening of any of them. He had nothing to do with the murders or moving the bodies or the car or anything else. He was just an oddball dude who thought he could get some of the reward money--because he is, as we used to say back in the day--retarded. It's just a fact.
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Post by Sam on Nov 4, 2015 20:50:01 GMT -5
Thank you for sharing this and your personal knowledge with us, shay. If it turns out that the police officer is telling the truth and another officer did kill the girls, it just goes to show that you can't trust anybody. Of course, she could be just repeating something that she's heard. We've been discussing this case for a long time, so please tell about anything else that you find out.
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Post by catherine on Nov 5, 2015 2:52:06 GMT -5
The article doesn't explain how the two girls got the incriminating tapes. They were two teenagers from Dothan and they didn't know the area around Ozark very well because they got lost. There are a lot of unanswered questions in this case.
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Post by emmalee on Nov 6, 2015 13:20:50 GMT -5
The article doesn't explain how the two girls got the incriminating tapes. They were two teenagers from Dothan and they didn't know the area around Ozark very well because they got lost. There are a lot of unanswered questions in this case.
I've been trying to figure out how or why they would be able to get incriminating evidence like this. Crum has never mentioned how the girls got these tapes, but there might be some substance. Another police officer revealed his case notes regarding the investigation and he believes that the said tapes were never recovered, but is pretty sure that the burglary of Tracie Hawlett's room just days before her murder has something to do with her murder, because, even though her room was torn apart the burglars didn't take anything. (http://henrycountyreport.com/blog/2015/11/05/retired-police-officer-shares-case-notes-on-murders-of-jb-beasley-and-tracie-hawlett/) The retired officer also mentioned that police officers tried to search Tracie's room after her murder, but her parents made them leave and refused to let them search their daughters room. Also, the thing about both of them getting lost in Ozark, JB, who was driving the car, lived in Ozark for a good bit of her life before the Beasley family moved to Dothan. According to Jacqui Burgoon in an interview, JB knew Ozark well enough to be able to follow directions on how to get to 231. They may not have known Headland or Haleburg very well, but Jacqui mentions that JB did know how to get around Ozark if someone gave her directions. This murder is very sad and I hope the families find peace and that they get the answers that they are looking for. Also I hope that the perpetrator is caught.
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Post by Sam on Nov 7, 2015 2:24:59 GMT -5
I've been trying to figure out how or why they would be able to get incriminating evidence like this. Crum has never mentioned how the girls got these tapes, but there might be some substance. Another police officer revealed his case notes regarding the investigation and he believes that the said tapes were never recovered, but is pretty sure that the burglary of Tracie Hawlett's room just days before her murder has something to do with her murder, because, even though her room was torn apart the burglars didn't take anything. (http://henrycountyreport.com/blog/2015/11/05/retired-police-officer-shares-case-notes-on-murders-of-jb-beasley-and-tracie-hawlett/) The retired officer also mentioned that police officers tried to search Tracie's room after her murder, but her parents made them leave and refused to let them search their daughters room. Also, the thing about both of them getting lost in Ozark, JB, who was driving the car, lived in Ozark for a good bit of her life before the Beasley family moved to Dothan. According to Jacqui Burgoon in an interview, JB knew Ozark well enough to be able to follow directions on how to get to 231. They may not have known Headland or Haleburg very well, but Jacqui mentions that JB did know how to get around Ozark if someone gave her directions. This murder is very sad and I hope the families find peace and that they get the answers that they are looking for. Also I hope that the perpetrator is caught.
In murder investigations, all kinds of rumors get started, so it's possible that someone started a rumor that the girls had these tapes, when they really didn't have any incriminating evidence. I hope whoever did it is caught, but after all this time, unless someone confesses on his deathbed, I doubt that it will ever be solved.
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Post by pat on Nov 7, 2015 5:38:18 GMT -5
I've been trying to figure out how or why they would be able to get incriminating evidence like this. Crum has never mentioned how the girls got these tapes, but there might be some substance. Another police officer revealed his case notes regarding the investigation and he believes that the said tapes were never recovered, but is pretty sure that the burglary of Tracie Hawlett's room just days before her murder has something to do with her murder, because, even though her room was torn apart the burglars didn't take anything. (http://henrycountyreport.com/blog/2015/11/05/retired-police-officer-shares-case-notes-on-murders-of-jb-beasley-and-tracie-hawlett/) The retired officer also mentioned that police officers tried to search Tracie's room after her murder, but her parents made them leave and refused to let them search their daughters room. Also, the thing about both of them getting lost in Ozark, JB, who was driving the car, lived in Ozark for a good bit of her life before the Beasley family moved to Dothan. According to Jacqui Burgoon in an interview, JB knew Ozark well enough to be able to follow directions on how to get to 231. They may not have known Headland or Haleburg very well, but Jacqui mentions that JB did know how to get around Ozark if someone gave her directions. This murder is very sad and I hope the families find peace and that they get the answers that they are looking for. Also I hope that the perpetrator is caught. My question is that if the girls had any tapes, why would the people that the tapes incriminated have risked killing them without first getting the tapes? If the police wanted to check one of their rooms after the girls were killed, wouldn't this mean that the tapes were still missing?
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Post by Graveyardbride on Aug 12, 2016 5:44:31 GMT -5
Blogger Sued by Officers Involved in Beasley-Hawlett Murder Case
DOTHAN, Ala. – The outcome of dueling court filings, one in federal court in the state of Washington and one in Dale County Circuit Court, could go a long way in determining whether the owner and operator of a website went too far with posts that may have accused a former Ozark Police officer of murder and former and current members of the Dothan Police Department of systematically planting evidence. Jon B. Carroll, who owns and operates the HenryCountyReport.com website, filed a motion for declaratory judgment Jan. 12. 2016, in U.S. District Court in the Western District of Washington, requesting a federal judge rule whether threats of lawsuits against Carroll have infringed on his First Amendment right to “report on newsworthy events.”
Meanwhile, several retired Ozark police officers filed a defamation suit against Carroll in Dale County, claiming he acted with a reckless disregard for the truth and malice when a post on his site indicated a former Ozark officer was responsible for the 1999 murders of teens Tracie Hawlett and JB Beasley. The two girls were found murdered in the trunk of a vehicle along an Ozark road in 1999. The case is unsolved. Five former Ozark police officers are plaintiffs in the suit, claiming allegations they covered up the investigation are slanderous. "He is a blogger. He is not a journalist,” Dothan attorney Tom Brantley said in reference to Carroll. Brantley, along with attorneys Adam Parker and John White, filed the suit in Dale County on behalf of the officers. “Gossip doesn’t get it. You have to have proof.”
Carroll disputes Brantley’s assertion. Carroll said his work has been featured by several publications including Alter-Net, RT News, Pacifica Radio and other recognized media outlets. He also claims membership in multiple professional media organizations. “I think it is fair to say if you work for an internationally recognized news media organization and your work is published on those sites, then that probably qualifies you as a photojournalist,” Carroll said Friday in an interview with the Dothan Eagle.
Carroll’s declaratory judgment motion is pending. He has filed a financial hardship motion, asking to proceed without having to pay the federal filing fee. A judge has asked Carroll submit a financial hardship form before making a ruling.
Carroll’s suit lists nine defendants, some of whom are connected to his report on the murders of Hawlett and Beasley, while others are connected to his report that alleges rampant evidence-planting by Dothan police officers. He said threats against him are impairing his ability to exercise his First Amendment rights. “The defendants’ conduct and legal threat has a direct ‘chilling effect’ upon the exercise of First Amendment-protected rights that include the right of the press to gather information on newsworthy subjects and report upon these victims’s stories to the public,” Carroll writes in his 24-page motion. The defendants have not been served with the suit.
The Ozark officers’ lawsuit deals only with the post concerning the Hawlett and Beasley murders. “In these ‘news’ stories, the defendants allege the plaintiffs either murdered JB Beasley and Tracie Hawlett, or aided in covering up the murder of the two girls. Several plaintiffs are named specifically and others … are described in such detail that it is apparent to all in the local community who the defendant is referring to and there are no others which its references describe,” the lawsuit states.
In order to prevail in a defamation suit, the plaintiffs must convince a judge that Carroll acted with a reckless disregard for the truth and with actual malice toward the defendants.
Attorney John White said a written or verbal accusation that a person has committed a crime without evidence to support the statement is considered defamation per se (on its face) under Alabama law. “I was the third law enforcement officer on the scene (after discovery of the bodies of Hawlett and Beasley). All this talk and reports about a bungled investigation and evidence destroyed ... it is not true. I was there,” said White, who was Dothan’s police chief at the time Hawlett and Beasley were killed.
Carroll said he believes he has a legal right to post the stories because they are based on leaked internal affairs and Alabama Bureau of Investigation documents obtained legally, or on published interviews with others who had involvement with the cases. Carroll said he and others have been threatened and that complaints and documents have been filed with the ABI and Department of Justice.
Source: Lance Griffin, The Dothan Eagle, January 29, 2016.
Blogger Lawsuit Transferred to Alabama
DOTHAN, Ala. – A judge in Washington state has decided against taking a case involving controversial posts made on a Wiregrass website and is transferring the action to Alabama. U.S. District Judge John C. Coughenour issued an order this week transferring a motion for declaratory judgment filed by Jon Carroll to U.S. District Court in the Middle District of Alabama, which encompasses Dothan.
Carroll filed the motion Jan. 12 in the U.S. District Court Western District of Washington. He is asking a judge to declare that certain posts related to the murders of two teens in Ozark in 1999 and allegations of corruption in the Dothan Police Department are not defamatory. In his motion, Carroll said Washington is the correct place jurisdiction because he legally resides in Washington and because a “substantial part of the events” giving rise to the motion occurred in Washington, such as the editing and publishing of the material. “At no time did the published work product physically reside in the State of Alabama,” Carroll wrote in his argument for jurisdiction in Washington. “Plaintiff produced and published the content in question that gives rise to the action in Edmonds, Washington. The internet used as a sole tool for publishing films and creative work has become common. With that development, the remaining constants are where the work is created, from where it is published, and where the physical hosting of said digital work exists.”
Cougenhour disagreed. “The primary events giving rise to plaintiff’s claims were not the editing and publication of his journalism. They were the incidents on which he was actually reporting, and the fact that defendants threatened him with suit for defamation. The primacy of these events is apparent that plaintiff’s claims are, essentially, that his reporting was accurate and defendants’ suit is unconstitutional. Plaintiff has never denied that these events have occurred and are occurring in Alabama,” Coughenour wrote in his order transferring the case.
“We are looking forward to a judgment from the federal court and pleased Judge Coughenour stated that the ‘allegations in the complaint are serious’ and that he recognizes the constitutional issue. We expect the ACLU and another organization to enter the suit. The right of journalists to report legally-obtained leaked documents is a constitutional issue and should not be impaired, nor should the right of free speech in the effort to hide information from the public about a police department planting drugs on the African American community,” Carroll said in a written statement in response to an inquiry from the Dothan Eagle.
Dothan Police Chief Steve Parrish has instituted an internal affairs investigation into any specific allegations of corruption in the police department and has asked for a federal investigation. Parrish said the department has kept records dating back to 1975.
Carroll is a defendant in a defamation case filed Jan. 29 in Dale County related to posts made about the 1999 murders of teens JB Beasley and Tracie Hawlett. The case is expected to continue in federal court in the Middle District of Alabama.
Source: Lance Griffin, The Dothan Eagle, March 16, 2016.
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Post by jason on Aug 12, 2016 11:42:17 GMT -5
Didn't some federal court judge already say that bloggers are journalists?
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Post by Graveyardbride on Aug 13, 2016 8:10:37 GMT -5
Didn't some federal court judge already say that bloggers are journalists?
Yes. In 2011, Crystal L. Cox, a blogger in Montana, was sued for defamation by Obsidian Finance Group for posting that Obsidian's co-founder, a bankruptcy trustee, criminally mishandled a bankruptcy case. Most of her accusations were dismissed by the lower court as nothing more than opinion, with the exception of a single post, which was found to be defamatory. Cox's assertion was that bloggers, like journalists, were protected by media shield laws, however, she had offered to remove her negative posts for a fee of $2,500. A jury awarded Obsidian $2.5 million. Cox appealed and in January 2014, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that the standards set by a supreme court ruling in Gertz v. Robert Welch, Inc., applied to internet bloggers as well as journalists, and returned the matter to the lower court for a new trial on the single blog post at issue.
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