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Post by tee2000 on Sept 10, 2016 7:04:10 GMT -5
As I said there's different strikes for different folks. Just because you have conservative views it doesn't make your way right or righteous above others. Romany gypsies dance and wear inappropriate clothing at a young age but they are not sexually active until marriage so what they wear has no bearing on their morality! It was a 7 year olds birthday so I feel silly string etc may have felt like a good idea at the time its not like that was the funeral service! My views are based on common sense as it applies to funeral customs in the United States.
The Roma culture is different, just as that of the Chinese, etc. The inappropriate dress and actions of the Routier family at the funeral and "party" had nothing to do with culture.
It was Devons 7th birthday party that the silly string incident occurred not the funeral. Its not unusual for police to tape funerals/gravesites what is unusual was that the so called lead detective never applied for a warrant to do so which he should know as an experienced detective is proper procedure for wire tapping.
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Post by tee2000 on Sept 10, 2016 6:43:50 GMT -5
As I said there's different strikes for different folks. Just because you have conservative views it doesn't make your way right or righteous above others. Romany gypsies dance and wear inappropriate clothing at a young age but they are not sexually active until marriage so what they wear has no bearing on their morality! It was a 7 year olds birthday so I feel silly string etc may have felt like a good idea at the time its not like that was the funeral service! My views are based on common sense as it applies to funeral customs in the United States.
The Roma culture is different, just as that of the Chinese, etc. The inappropriate dress and actions of the Routier family at the funeral and "party" had nothing to do with culture.
Well it does you just said it yourself you think their white trash so its a class culture thing where people equate class and taste with Morality. This is why I dont like discussing the graveside part because people are too self righteous and judgemental. You cant tell someone's a murderer from the clothes they wear, how they talk the colour of their skin or their class position. What you can do is look at the physical evidence from the crime scene and it actually supports her story and disproves the states version of events.
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Post by tee2000 on Sept 10, 2016 6:34:40 GMT -5
This case was reinvestigated by 2 highly experienced homicide detectives that knew nothing about the crime. They even came to the same conclusion that Darie was guilty they even found particles of the screen on a bread knife that was in the knife block. Even the brutality of the crime showed that it was done by someone who was close to the victims. One of the older boys wounds went right through him and into the floor. She s guilty and lethal injection is to kind for her and I don't believe the husband is totally innocent either Two highly experienced detectives, where? are you talking about Cron who was retired at the time and who was a fingerprint expert that could not identify one print. Cron also did not notice the glass lodged in the wine rack until pointed out to him on the stand didn't fit his staging theory? Cron also implicated a suspect 30mins in that is not something an experienced investigator would do im afraid
Oh and Jimmy Patterson the dodgy detective that plead the fifth with a son with a long criminal record that took no notes recorded no interviews and failed to follow up leads and illegally tapped the gravesite also causing the second in command frosh to plead the fifth too!
They never proved those fibres were from the bread knife also who would use a bread knife to cut a screen when you have sharper knives available in that block? Charles linch in an affidavit stated it need to be tested further and that the block and knives were fingerprinted before he received them so could have been secondary transfer from the screen.
There are many cases where people are murdered in their homes by strangers dont let the media give you a false sense of security. In regards to your comment about the boys being stabbed through to the ground is nonsense no exit wounds on either boys autopsy dont make this crime more horrendous than it already is.
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Post by tee2000 on Sept 10, 2016 5:50:22 GMT -5
I'm not sure of the answers to your questions and think that it is irrelevant that she wore shorts to an outside memorial in the summer. To me she looks disheveled just dragged herself up and put on shorts and t-shirt. She wasn't wearing batty riders and a crop top with her face plastered in make-up. Maybe someone else would choose to do that and it be seen as inappropriate. I think its inappropriate that some brides choose to wear bikini to their own wedding but who am I to judge in sure that doesn't necessarily make them a bad person. It was suppose to be a Childs birthday that was planned before this tragedy happened so they had to change the plans and had no choice under the circumstances but to celebrate his birthday at his grave. I feel the whole silly string tape thing is and should have been completely irrelevant to the trial unless she was filmed confessing. What I do find suspicious is how the police went to the effort to wire tap the gravesite but never recorded or taped any of the interviews or interrogations? As aforestated, I do not believe Darlie had a fair trial and her legal representation was sorely lacking. Additionally, I think anyone looking at her wounds would see the cut to her neck and chest would have been difficult for a right-handed woman to inflict on herself. Nevertheless, her actions and those of family members were grossly inappropriate. Not only was Darlie wearing revealing shorts, so was her sister. The whole family was dressed like a bunch of vagabonds, as though they were going to the beach or a barbecue, not attending an event in the graveyard. Not only was their dress inappropriate for a funeral, it was inappropriate for a graveyard event. I realize the family is what people in the South call "white trash," but even the poor and uneducated show respect for the dead. Trashy people often cover graves of loved ones with cheap plastic flowers, or in the case of a child, toys and other junk, but they have sense enough to dress decently at a funeral. Yes, it was one the birthday of one of the boys, but that doesn't excuse the way these people were dressed and how they were acting. If they wanted to throw a birthday party for the dead, they should have had the coffins brought to their home, or arranged to have the party in a private room of the funeral home -- and they should have dressed appropriately.
It's not that unusual for police to place microphones at the graves of murder victims because killers have been known to make incriminating statements when visiting the burial sites of their victims. As I said there's different strikes for different folks. Just because you have conservative views it doesn't make your way right or righteous above others. Romany gypsies dance and wear inappropriate clothing at a young age but they are not sexually active until marriage so what they wear has no bearing on their morality! It was a 7 year olds birthday so I feel silly string etc may have felt like a good idea at the time its not like that was the funeral service!
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Post by tee2000 on Sept 10, 2016 5:35:52 GMT -5
I'd like to know why the DNA records were sealed. Lets be realistic here Darlie did not and could not have them sealed herself this notion comes from a women called cami lee who has a blog full of misinformation and a general hatred for Darlie. This case is still going through appeals and DNA is not yet complete. As this is such a high profile case it makes sense to seal the records until everything is complete.
I have a copy of the recent DNA results and there was unknown male DNA identified. What is also telling is there is a lack of DNA supporting Tom Bevels cast off theory to this day!
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Post by tee2000 on Aug 15, 2016 7:00:12 GMT -5
I completely agree not only would she have actually had a defense her family wouldn't be pennieless Mulder was criminal taking that money. Don't get me started on the blood spatter expert he is an absolute joke and doesn't follow basic scientific reasoning such as gravity or involve any scientific practice or analysis. A real expert for the defense would have torn tom bevel to pieces on that stand. Darin should have been the alternate suspect regardless. So why did she allow her mother to take over everything? If the mother had any sense, she would have discouraged that insane cemetery party and would have told her daughter not to wear short shorts to a funeral.
I'm not sure of the answers to your questions and think that it is irrelevant that she wore shorts to an outside memorial in the summer. To me she looks disheveled just dragged herself up and put on shorts and t-shirt. She wasn't wearing batty riders and a crop top with her face plastered in make-up. Maybe someone else would choose to do that and it be seen as inappropriate. I think its inappropriate that some brides choose to wear bikini to their own wedding but who am I to judge in sure that doesn't necessarily make them a bad person. It was suppose to be a Childs birthday that was planned before this tragedy happened so they had to change the plans and had no choice under the circumstances but to celebrate his birthday at his grave. I feel the whole silly string tape thing is and should have been completely irrelevant to the trial unless she was filmed confessing. What I do find suspicious is how the police went to the effort to wire tap the gravesite but never recorded or taped any of the interviews or interrogations?
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Post by tee2000 on Aug 12, 2016 10:35:11 GMT -5
Two things that bothered me about the trial were: (1) Darlie's lawyer, Doug Mulder, had a conflict of interest because he had represented Darin; and (2) Mulder didn't call a forensic expert the defense had retained to dispute the prosecution's blood spatter expert. If Darlie had kept her court-appointed attorneys instead of listening to her mother and hiring the high-powered Mulder, she'd have had a better chance. Later, Doug Parks, one of the lawyers appointed by the court, said he would have suggested that Darin committed the murders, which would have created reasonable doubt. Terry Laber, a forensic expert, said he believed the reason Mulder didn't call him to testify was because of the costs involved. It's too bad Darlie didn't have any better sense than to allow her know-it-all mother to make all the decisions.
I completely agree not only would she have actually had a defense her family wouldn't be pennieless Mulder was criminal taking that money. Don't get me started on the blood spatter expert he is an absolute joke and doesn't follow basic scientific reasoning such as gravity or involve any scientific practice or analysis. A real expert for the defense would have torn tom bevel to pieces on that stand. Darin should have been the alternate suspect regardless.
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Post by tee2000 on Aug 9, 2016 4:51:25 GMT -5
Hi Kate Moderator, Excuse the layout of my post but i am new to these types of blogs. In regards to Darlie's wounds being with her non dominant hand read Dr Dimao testimony from the trail. If you see the angle of the neck wound for example although this could have been inflicted with her dominant hand is very implausible due to the angle and how she would of had to do that in a very awkward position and get a neat cut like that the first ever time she had cut herself. The cut that would have had to be made with her non dominant hand is the cut on her forearm. Dimao testified that even in cases where there is self inflicted injuries to throw people off and often where the perp has been highly intelligent doctors etc always use their dominant hand because its a natural human instinct, its unconscious decision making.
As for the boys there's no real way of knowing whether the person was left or right handed as you cant tell due to unknown relative positions amount of movement etc. The autopsy and trial testimony regarding the boys injuries indicates that its a possibility that a different weapon was used in Devons injuries. This supports the fact that there is none of Devon's blood found on the knife Darlie picked up in the kitchen. They say Devon was killed there and then laying down but it is my belief from the evidence photos what looks like blunt trauma on the back of his thigh etc i believe he stood up and fell back into the glass table. Similarly Damon must have got up after being stabbed as blood was pooling on the back of his jeans meaning he must have been upright for gravity to pull the blood down toward his jeans.
Still not sure about Darin myself although as far as far as motive goes he had a lot more to gain. If he thought Darlie was going to leave him he could of snapped and done this.
I still have my doubts about him but the physical evidence is not there whether he was somehow involved or not is still a possibility maybe indirectly even?
Deep down i really feel there was an intruder but he was overlooked as soon as cron decided there was no intruder. Theres plenty of physical evidence that supports the intruder theory and it happens. See the cases of logan tipton, chynna and blake dickus(spooky similarities to this case) dakota lane.
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Post by tee2000 on Aug 2, 2016 14:21:47 GMT -5
You call it railroaded I call it confirmation bias. One of the major issues for me in this case is the confirmation bias that ran through this case from the minute cron made the statement to the police personelle at the scene Darlie had done it. Why else would they concentrate on the kitchen sink for testing there was nothing unusual about the appearance of that sink considering Darlie stated she had wet towels for the boys. The blood evidence on her nightshirt and the pillow she slept on prove otherwise! A number of unidentified fingerprints off the top of my head 13 in all two in blood that cron could not identify but admits at trial could be identifiable according to ridge detail.
No motive, or an unrealistic one that Darlie had the baby blues woke up that night and decided I know what would better my situation Il kill my two oldest children and slash my own throat leave the baby alive and my husband even though he has a large insurance policy. If she is so materialistic and money hungry? She gained nothing from the death of those boys. Its not logical and dismantles the prosecutions theory. Self inflicted throat slashing is very very rare even in self inflicted injury cases and typically these people will have a history of self harm behaviours. Even in cases where self inflicted injuries were used to throw the police off a suspect wounds tend to be superficial and in less data areas of the body and always,always with the dominant hand as its natural human instinct.
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