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Post by lga on Jun 14, 2019 12:24:26 GMT -5
I also want to share that I found it very strange that they would take people on as investigators who have no knowledge of Baltimore or even have credentials as investigators. I thought it was odd after I left the group. I could have been the murderer, the police, etc. Just found it strange. Wouldn't you want a real investigator to work this case? IMO it was a ploy to keep the story alive. For whatever their reasons were. Gem I always found just loved the fame.
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Post by steve on Jun 14, 2019 16:52:34 GMT -5
I don't know why the producers didn't ask, I was not part of the production. In my opinion "anonymous" did not exist." As I have posted, when we asked about anonymous, Gem said she wanted to remain anonymous and that the boyfriend died. Russell never mentioned to the police or detectives that Maskell and Magnus burst into the apartment without knocking. If Russell were afraid she would have left the apartment and gone to live somewhere else. Maybe run home to Daddy and Mommy. Russell's family was very well connected to the Roman Catholic church. Her brother made a name for himself through the years in the AOB. Russell remained at the Carriage House. Also, Atilla said she believed that Magnus and Russell were having an affair. I forgot to mention Atilla who worked as a secretary said that she never saw police cars at Keough. I can only share what I know and what transpired on the team and my opinions. Just months ago one of Alan's team member reached out to us 3 and asked us if we thought this story was made up because they couldn't find any evidence to sexual abuse and murder, that Alan all of the sudden stopped working on it and won't answer text messages or emails. This woman believes this was mostly made up. Ed Davidson is dead, I am sure they checked his DNA. Maskell's DNA didn't match. Skippy no one knows where he is and if he even existed, he disappeared, Billy Schmidt we know was married before Cathy died to a woman named Virginia. No record that he ever lived in the Carriage House but they insist he did, maybe he did. We had a poster on the Keepers say her mom lived next door and never saw anyone go in and out the two women were quiet and low key, yet there is a podcaster saying Cathy and Russell had parties and smoked pot. That Scannell who was a Lt. at the time was driving around with Ed Davidson. That her mom would call the police when she thought she was missing. This woman told a story that she would show up at home late and that Scannell would be in the apartment waiting for her. Which we know now to be a total lie.
So there's no proof that anyone went to talked with Sister Cathy or that Maskell and Magnus went to the apartment that night, yet, those are the only two things connecting any of this to the murder.
Who is Atilla? Is that her real name, or is that just what you call her, like Yellow Tail?
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Post by lga on Jun 14, 2019 17:40:21 GMT -5
Atillia "Till" Basso Marasa, worked as a secretary at Keough. I think someone said she was still around and they found her at a nursing home. She was also tricked into talking from the same woman that tried to get Maureen to talk. We have the recording. No, there is no proof that the anonymous girl and dead boyfriend ever existed. Gem said that the girl went to give her statement to the police. But who knows if that is true.
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Post by lga on Jun 14, 2019 17:47:35 GMT -5
Found notes, copied and pasted it for everyone:
● Worked as school secretary at Keough from 67-74 ● Adamant that police were never at school. ● Fearful that the FBI would come looking for her. ● Criminal past and history of prescription drug abuse. ● Noted that Maskell was large and intimidating man. ● Said police swarmed school after Sister Cathy went missing. ● Saw Maskell take girls on elevator to somewhere upstairs. ● Said Fr. Carney would frequently visit school and that he had a sister who was a sister there. ● Repeated that if she had an inkling of what was going on she would have gone to AOB. ● Brother, Dino Basso, said to have temper, history of working at Go Go Club in 60’s, notable in Little Italy now, became very angry that she would talk to anyone about Maskell. Till said Dino knows how bad Maskell was. ● Niece attended Keough ● Seemed to imply she suspected some nuns had relations with priests at Keough. ● Said Maskell always very nice to her. Was very shocked when it all came out. ● According to her ex daughter in-law, Till was institutionalized at one point and has a history of violence against family members. ● Husband was a chef. ● Her husband knew a millionaire (through the restaurant??) who wanted to adopt her daughter. Odd story. ● Stated that if Maskell and Scannell were BFFS then he had carte blanche to do whatever he wanted. ● Said she did not recognize Hawkins or Lentz. ● She liked Mrs. Brach and Sr. Mary Virginia. Did not like the prinicipal that followed her. ● Said “Russell knew damn well what was going on.” ● Was edgy about Sr. Russell during converstation but warm re: Sr. Cathy. ● When told Sr. Russell has passed away she said “guilt.” When asked what she meant she said “guilt over Sr. Cathy” ● Implied possible relationship between Sr. Russell and Fr. Magnus.
She is very hard of hearing and spoke at random. So a lot of it didn't make sense, this is the best we could do from hearing the tape that Kate gave us to listen. Till seemed to be all over the place.
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Post by lga on Jun 15, 2019 8:13:44 GMT -5
WELL HOLD ON TO YOUR HAT, JEAN JUST REMEMBERED SOMETHING THAT WAS JUST POSTED ON FACEBOOK VIA ABBIE. HERE WE GO. SHE HAS NOT SAID WHAT SHE REMEMBERED BUT SHE IS ENRAGED, HER FAMILY AND HER THERAPIST.
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Post by JoannaL on Jun 15, 2019 12:38:52 GMT -5
WELL HOLD ON TO YOUR HAT, JEAN JUST REMEMBERED SOMETHING THAT WAS JUST POSTED ON FACEBOOK VIA ABBIE. HERE WE GO. SHE HAS NOT SAID WHAT SHE REMEMBERED BUT SHE IS ENRAGED, HER FAMILY AND HER THERAPIST. As soon as you find out, please post it.
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Post by catherine on Jun 15, 2019 13:08:21 GMT -5
WELL HOLD ON TO YOUR HAT, JEAN JUST REMEMBERED SOMETHING THAT WAS JUST POSTED ON FACEBOOK VIA ABBIE. HERE WE GO. SHE HAS NOT SAID WHAT SHE REMEMBERED BUT SHE IS ENRAGED, HER FAMILY AND HER THERAPIST. That cow's still recovering memories?
I was just re-reading Lee's article about that crazy shrink from Chicago who's now in hot water in Montana and when I saw this paragraph, I thought of The Creepers:The Sacred Cows saw a slew of psychiatrists and psychologists and I wondered how many of them attended Dr. Bennet Braun's conference back in 1984. Jean Wehner started "remembering" in the early '90s, around the time "Twin Peaks" was on TV, and the Satanic ritual abuse craze was still going strong at that time.
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Post by madeline on Jun 15, 2019 14:05:19 GMT -5
I also want to share that I found it very strange that they would take people on as investigators who have no knowledge of Baltimore or even have credentials as investigators. I thought it was odd after I left the group. I could have been the murderer, the police, etc. Just found it strange. Wouldn't you want a real investigator to work this case? IMO it was a ploy to keep the story alive. For whatever their reasons were. Gem I always found just loved the fame. Your mention of investigators reminded me of something I want to ask. That letter from Sister Cathy to Koob, who was supposed to be dating her -- Did anyone ever check to see if it was typed on her typewriter? I find a lot of things about Koob really strange and don't forget, he's the one who said the police were carrying Cathy's vagina around in a paper bag and showed it him. I'm not saying he had anything to do with her murder, but he's nuts.
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Post by catherine on Jun 16, 2019 11:11:43 GMT -5
Your mention of investigators reminded me of something I want to ask. That letter from Sister Cathy to Koob, who was supposed to be dating her -- Did anyone ever check to see if it was typed on her typewriter? I find a lot of things about Koob really strange and don't forget, he's the one who said the police were carrying Cathy's vagina around in a paper bag and showed it him. I'm not saying he had anything to do with her murder, but he's nuts. If it wasn't checked by the police back then, it would be too late now.
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Post by madeline on Jun 16, 2019 13:15:11 GMT -5
If it wasn't checked by the police back then, it would be too late now. I know that. I thought she might have come across some evidence that the police had verified that the letter was typed by Sister Cathy, because I don't believe that it was. I think Koob typed it for some bizarre reason and put it where he knew police would find it.
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Post by catherine on Jun 16, 2019 18:02:36 GMT -5
I know that. I thought she might have come across some evidence that the police had verified that the letter was typed by Sister Cathy, because I don't believe that it was. I think Koob typed it for some bizarre reason and put it where he knew police would find it. I've always thought Koob was a kook. If that's what he thought, why didn't he tell police back in '69 and '70 and save everyone a lot of time? He never mentioned Maskell, whom the Sacred Cows claim came "barging in" on the night Sister Cathy was reported missing. To my knowledge, the police investigating her murder never had any reason to suspect Maskell, or anyone else connected to the church -- except Koob -- until after Jean Wehner and Teresa Lancaster filed their lawsuit
lga: Do you know if there's any evidence Maskell was suspected in Sister Cathy's murder before the 1990s?
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Post by Kate on Jun 17, 2019 14:09:40 GMT -5
I guess that best thing to do is maybe ask me questions on certain things and I will answer. I have so much but I don't even know where to start. By the way, Jane Roe's first son maybe be Urban's son, the son and mom don't speak. I have tons of information. Do you know the identity of the woman psychologist or psychologist, or whatever she was, who said she talked to Maskell not long before he died about the abuse? Is she someone else that no one but Gemma Hoskins knows about?
I'd also like to know your answer to the question Catherine asked about Koob above.
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Post by Graveyardbride on Jun 17, 2019 21:41:14 GMT -5
More backstabbing by Gemma Hoskins, this time in messages to Shannon Beeby. In the second message, she claims she and Abbie Schaub have gone their separate ways.
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Post by lga on Jun 19, 2019 16:26:10 GMT -5
Hello, sorry I have been so busy at work. Someone asked if the letter was typed or handwritten from what I heard it was handwritten and dated Nov. 3. Another question was about the psychologist. If you mean the one from the documentary, Dr. Lee Richmond, professor of education from Loyola. As far as what Koob said about Maskell, not sure but I believe he said that after he weighed all things. The so called abuse and that Jean believed she saw the body. So it could have been that his thoughts were thinking that after all the allegations came out. I don't think he knew anything of the abuse before she disappeared or for many years till the Jean came out with the abuse. Russell never told anyone about it, not even the police. Lots of questions but all rumors.
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Post by catherine on Jun 19, 2019 17:33:49 GMT -5
I don't think he knew anything of the abuse before she disappeared or for many years till the Jean came out with the abuse. Russell never told anyone about it, not even the police. Lots of questions but all rumors. If Sister Cathy and Koob were lovers, don't you think she would have said something or even asked his advice about how she should go about reporting it? If you're a lowly nun and you're thinking about reporting highly-regarded priests for something as serious is serial sexual abuse, you'd want all the help you could get.
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